Comments on: On the Ongoing Emergence of New Forms of Organisational Governance and Structure http://www.theappgap.com/on-the-ongoing-emergence-of-new-forms-of-organisational-governance-and-structure.html Apps, Strategies, and Best Practices for Web-based work Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:56:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jon Husband http://www.theappgap.com/on-the-ongoing-emergence-of-new-forms-of-organisational-governance-and-structure.html/comment-page-1#comment-25801 Jon Husband Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:35:26 +0000 http://www.theappgap.com/on-the-ongoing-emergence-of-new-forms-of-organisational-governance-and-structure.html#comment-25801 Salut, Luis. Can you provide a link to what you think is the best way to get an introduction to Morin's "La méthode" ? I think that you are right .. in principle, the effective use of hierarchy would involve paying attention to he feedback from the system that the hierarchy dominates. And I am sure that in some systems the hierarchs do pay attention to feedback, but it's an area that I suspect would benefit much from greater and more consistent attention to the feedback. I think that is one of the key things I am working on getting at with the concept of "wirearchy" .. I have never suggested it would replace hierarchy, but rather that we should modernize the use of hierarchy by placing it in relation to, and as part of, an holistic feedback system. Salut, Luis. Can you provide a link to what you think is the best way to get an introduction to Morin’s “La méthode” ?

I think that you are right .. in principle, the effective use of hierarchy would involve paying attention to he feedback from the system that the hierarchy dominates. And I am sure that in some systems the hierarchs do pay attention to feedback, but it’s an area that I suspect would benefit much from greater and more consistent attention to the feedback.

I think that is one of the key things I am working on getting at with the concept of “wirearchy” .. I have never suggested it would replace hierarchy, but rather that we should modernize the use of hierarchy by placing it in relation to, and as part of, an holistic feedback system.

]]> By: Luis Alberola http://www.theappgap.com/on-the-ongoing-emergence-of-new-forms-of-organisational-governance-and-structure.html/comment-page-1#comment-25785 Luis Alberola Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:14:05 +0000 http://www.theappgap.com/on-the-ongoing-emergence-of-new-forms-of-organisational-governance-and-structure.html#comment-25785 I couldn't help but think about Edgar Morin and his seminal work "La méthode" when I read about the self-organization. I think his description of the "3rd generation machine" is an incredible approach of the modern corporation. What I get from his work is that indeed feed-back loops have been governing organizations from the outset, only now, the pace of change is accelerating and we actually "see" the feed-back loops. Thinking about it, isn't hierarchy a feeble attempt at managing feed-back loops ? I couldn’t help but think about Edgar Morin and his seminal work “La méthode” when I read about the self-organization.

I think his description of the “3rd generation machine” is an incredible approach of the modern corporation. What I get from his work is that indeed feed-back loops have been governing organizations from the outset, only now, the pace of change is accelerating and we actually “see” the feed-back loops.

Thinking about it, isn’t hierarchy a feeble attempt at managing feed-back loops ?

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