Comments on: Fractal Is As Fractal Does … Emerging Forms of Organization Structure? http://www.theappgap.com/fractal-is-as-fractal-does-emerging-forms-of-organization-structure.html Apps, Strategies, and Best Practices for Web-based work Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:56:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Wirearchy · Revisiting “On the Ongoing Emergence of (New) Organizational Structure and Dynamics” http://www.theappgap.com/fractal-is-as-fractal-does-emerging-forms-of-organization-structure.html/comment-page-1#comment-35092 Wirearchy · Revisiting “On the Ongoing Emergence of (New) Organizational Structure and Dynamics” Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:19:38 +0000 http://www.theappgap.com/fractal-is-as-fractal-does-emerging-forms-of-organization-structure.html#comment-35092 [...] See also “Fractal Is As Fractal Does … Emerging Forms of Organization Structure?“. [...] [...] See also “Fractal Is As Fractal Does … Emerging Forms of Organization Structure?“. [...]

]]> By: Jenny Ambrozek http://www.theappgap.com/fractal-is-as-fractal-does-emerging-forms-of-organization-structure.html/comment-page-1#comment-24599 Jenny Ambrozek Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:33:32 +0000 http://www.theappgap.com/fractal-is-as-fractal-does-emerging-forms-of-organization-structure.html#comment-24599 Jon, Thanks for the interesting set of links and directions to explore here. Your post reminded me of my 21stCenturyOrganization blogging colleague Victoria Axelrod's pointer yesterday http://snurl.com/7yj8t to the Web Science Research Initiative begun this fall at MIT and South Hampton University. http://webscience.org/about/ with no less than Tim Berners Lee as a director. http://webscience.org/about/ What struck me reading about the WSRI site was the recognition of the complex intertwining of technology and human interaction: QUOTE: "The Web is an engineered space created through formally specified languages and protocols. However, because humans are the creators of Web pages and links between them, their interactions form emergent patterns in the Web at a macroscopic scale. These human interactions are, in turn, governed by social conventions and laws. Web science, therefore, must be inherently interdisciplinary; its goal is to both understand the growth of the Web and to create approaches that allow new powerful and more beneficial patterns to occur." Given your long advocacy of wirearchies to help organizations adapt their structures to a constantly changing, increasingly connected world I'm interested in your observations on the promise of webscience.org's efforts. Jon, Thanks for the interesting set of links and directions to explore here. Your post reminded me of my 21stCenturyOrganization blogging colleague Victoria Axelrod’s pointer yesterday
http://snurl.com/7yj8t to the Web Science Research Initiative begun this fall at MIT and South Hampton University. http://webscience.org/about/ with no less than Tim Berners Lee as a director. http://webscience.org/about/

What struck me reading about the WSRI site was the recognition of the complex intertwining of technology and human interaction:

QUOTE:
“The Web is an engineered space created through formally specified languages and protocols. However, because humans are the creators of Web pages and links between them, their interactions form emergent patterns in the Web at a macroscopic scale. These human interactions are, in turn, governed by social conventions and laws. Web science, therefore, must be inherently interdisciplinary; its goal is to both understand the growth of the Web and to create approaches that allow new powerful and more beneficial patterns to occur.”

Given your long advocacy of wirearchies to help organizations adapt their structures to a constantly changing, increasingly connected world I’m interested in your observations on the promise of webscience.org’s efforts.

]]> By: Jon Husband http://www.theappgap.com/fractal-is-as-fractal-does-emerging-forms-of-organization-structure.html/comment-page-1#comment-24321 Jon Husband Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:18:41 +0000 http://www.theappgap.com/fractal-is-as-fractal-does-emerging-forms-of-organization-structure.html#comment-24321 Thanks for stopping by, Kingsley. We've never met but I know about you, you're the guy who had the smarts and luck to get Fred Giasson working with / for you ;-) I'm not too sure how much "the fractal nature of networks" is making its way into anything approach "the mainstream" of Enterprise Architecture thinking, but clearly we will find out ... in my opinion, it's inevitable. You might find this article by Dion Hinchcliffe in ZDNet today of interest: <b><a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Hinchcliffe/?p=218&tag=nl.e539" rel="nofollow">The emerging case for open business methods</a></b> Thanks for stopping by, Kingsley. We’ve never met but I know about you, you’re the guy who had the smarts and luck to get Fred Giasson working with / for you ;-)

I’m not too sure how much “the fractal nature of networks” is making its way into anything approach “the mainstream” of Enterprise Architecture thinking, but clearly we will find out … in my opinion, it’s inevitable.

You might find this article by Dion Hinchcliffe in ZDNet today of interest:

The emerging case for open business methods

]]> By: Kingsley Idehen http://www.theappgap.com/fractal-is-as-fractal-does-emerging-forms-of-organization-structure.html/comment-page-1#comment-24296 Kingsley Idehen Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:46:48 +0000 http://www.theappgap.com/fractal-is-as-fractal-does-emerging-forms-of-organization-structure.html#comment-24296 Really nice to see that the Fractal nature of modern networks (e.g. Internet & World Wide Web) is making its way into the obvious realm of Enterprise Architecture thinking :-) We are increasingly dependent on Networks (public and private), but not always cognizant of the nature / topology of these networks which ultimately leads to incongruent attempts at exploitation e.g. centralized services as espoused by typical Web 2.0 solutions atop a network substrate that is inherentlyFractal :-( Kingsley Idehen. Really nice to see that the Fractal nature of modern networks (e.g. Internet & World Wide Web) is making its way into the obvious realm of Enterprise Architecture thinking :-)

We are increasingly dependent on Networks (public and private), but not always cognizant of the nature / topology of these networks which ultimately leads to incongruent attempts at exploitation e.g. centralized services as espoused by typical Web 2.0 solutions atop a network substrate that is inherentlyFractal :-(

Kingsley Idehen.

]]> By: Jon Husband http://www.theappgap.com/fractal-is-as-fractal-does-emerging-forms-of-organization-structure.html/comment-page-1#comment-24086 Jon Husband Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:06:28 +0000 http://www.theappgap.com/fractal-is-as-fractal-does-emerging-forms-of-organization-structure.html#comment-24086 And yes, learning and doing in tandem ... being responsive to constant flows of information and change (just like organisms' nervous system) ... are necessary in this interlinked interconnected environment. The deep issues leading us in this direction have been building for quite some time .. in 50 years or so, of course, those of us who are still alive will (probably) think that things have always been more or less this way ... just as today we find quaint the way things were done say 50 years ago. ;-) Oh, and I'd like to take (very mild) exception to your use of the word "reminiscent" ... it sometimes has felt like I have been screaming into the full force of a cyclonic wind storm when writing and talking about "wirearchies" ... for 8 years now ;-) And yes, learning and doing in tandem … being responsive to constant flows of information and change (just like organisms’ nervous system) … are necessary in this interlinked interconnected environment.

The deep issues leading us in this direction have been building for quite some time .. in 50 years or so, of course, those of us who are still alive will (probably) think that things have always been more or less this way … just as today we find quaint the way things were done say 50 years ago.

;-)

Oh, and I’d like to take (very mild) exception to your use of the word “reminiscent” … it sometimes has felt like I have been screaming into the full force of a cyclonic wind storm when writing and talking about “wirearchies” … for 8 years now ;-)

]]> By: Jon Husband http://www.theappgap.com/fractal-is-as-fractal-does-emerging-forms-of-organization-structure.html/comment-page-1#comment-24085 Jon Husband Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:01:36 +0000 http://www.theappgap.com/fractal-is-as-fractal-does-emerging-forms-of-organization-structure.html#comment-24085 Yes, indeed. I think it's George Siemens, Jay Cross and a few other elearning thought leaders who are responsible for elaborating the concept of Connectivism, if I am not mistaken. Yes, indeed. I think it’s George Siemens, Jay Cross and a few other elearning thought leaders who are responsible for elaborating the concept of Connectivism, if I am not mistaken.

]]> By: Natalie http://www.theappgap.com/fractal-is-as-fractal-does-emerging-forms-of-organization-structure.html/comment-page-1#comment-24084 Natalie Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:51:15 +0000 http://www.theappgap.com/fractal-is-as-fractal-does-emerging-forms-of-organization-structure.html#comment-24084 Interesting post. Looking at organizations in terms of "wirearchies" and "fractal org charts" seems reminiscent of a new learning theory making the rounds called Connectivism (http://www.elearnspace.org/Articles/connectivism.htm), which explains how learning occurs in an increasingly networked world. Interesting post. Looking at organizations in terms of “wirearchies” and “fractal org charts” seems reminiscent of a new learning theory making the rounds called Connectivism (http://www.elearnspace.org/Articles/connectivism.htm), which explains how learning occurs in an increasingly networked world.

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