Comments on: BoardVantage – Taking Enterprise 2.0 into the Boardroom http://www.theappgap.com/boardvantage-taking-enterprise-20-into-the-board-room.html Apps, Strategies, and Best Practices for Web-based work Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:56:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Bill Ives http://www.theappgap.com/boardvantage-taking-enterprise-20-into-the-board-room.html/comment-page-1#comment-14181 Bill Ives Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:20:04 +0000 http://www.theappgap.com/boardvantage-taking-enterprise-20-into-the-board-room.html#comment-14181 I am glad you enjoy the forum. Search is located about half way down on the right side bar. We are thinking about moving it up to make it more visible. Bill I am glad you enjoy the forum. Search is located about half way down on the right side bar. We are thinking about moving it up to make it more visible. Bill

]]> By: Raibiatut http://www.theappgap.com/boardvantage-taking-enterprise-20-into-the-board-room.html/comment-page-1#comment-13891 Raibiatut Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:57:39 +0000 http://www.theappgap.com/boardvantage-taking-enterprise-20-into-the-board-room.html#comment-13891 Hi, everybody! I think, that this is a great forum. Very intresting and useful. But I can't find the search function, cause I want faster find the topics that could be intresting for me to express my opinion... Please help me with search function on this forum! Hi, everybody!

I think, that this is a great forum. Very intresting and useful.
But I can’t find the search function, cause I want faster find the topics that could be intresting for me to express my opinion…
Please help me with search function on this forum!

]]> By: Bill Ives http://www.theappgap.com/boardvantage-taking-enterprise-20-into-the-board-room.html/comment-page-1#comment-1635 Bill Ives Sat, 17 May 2008 15:56:32 +0000 http://www.theappgap.com/boardvantage-taking-enterprise-20-into-the-board-room.html#comment-1635 Shiv - interesting point but it if you mean partnerships between smaller players it might be hard to make happen practically since many smaller vendors have overlapping functions and most are adding new functions to make themselves a more complete suite. If you mean partnerships and/or integration with larger players, that is certainly happening. I would imagine that the exit strategy for many smaller players is to be acquired. That happens with even the bigger guys like WebEX being bought by Cisco. I am not saying that was their exit strategy, it is just what happen. In the case of the the product in this post, BoardVantage, they offer a fully functional tool (for the target task) that is aimed at and optimized for a very niche market. It is a horizontal function player at the top which I found interesting since many of the enterprise 2.0 tools are aimed at a bottom up approach for gaining entry to the enterprise. Zoho is one company that keeps adding new tools to develop a suite in the way I think you are describing but they do it all themselves. I also certainly agree that ad supported will not work in the enterprise. Bill Shiv – interesting point but it if you mean partnerships between smaller players it might be hard to make happen practically since many smaller vendors have overlapping functions and most are adding new functions to make themselves a more complete suite. If you mean partnerships and/or integration with larger players, that is certainly happening. I would imagine that the exit strategy for many smaller players is to be acquired. That happens with even the bigger guys like WebEX being bought by Cisco. I am not saying that was their exit strategy, it is just what happen. In the case of the the product in this post, BoardVantage, they offer a fully functional tool (for the target task) that is aimed at and optimized for a very niche market. It is a horizontal function player at the top which I found interesting since many of the enterprise 2.0 tools are aimed at a bottom up approach for gaining entry to the enterprise. Zoho is one company that keeps adding new tools to develop a suite in the way I think you are describing but they do it all themselves. I also certainly agree that ad supported will not work in the enterprise. Bill

]]> By: Shiv Singh http://www.theappgap.com/boardvantage-taking-enterprise-20-into-the-board-room.html/comment-page-1#comment-1634 Shiv Singh Sat, 17 May 2008 15:40:19 +0000 http://www.theappgap.com/boardvantage-taking-enterprise-20-into-the-board-room.html#comment-1634 That's a very interesting question about the smaller companies. I've argued for a year or so that many of the smaller companies should come together and provide Enterprise 2.0 Suites - application suites that pull together different mini applications. Unless they are evolving to an ad supported model (which hasn't succeeded in the enterprise as yet), it will always be difficult for them to support a sales force and seriously target the enterprise. At the most, they'll be left to focus on the SMB market. Partnerships is indeed one way out of this. The big players whether it be portal or otherwise are incorporating more and more Enterprise 2.0 functionality. That’s a very interesting question about the smaller companies. I’ve argued for a year or so that many of the smaller companies should come together and provide Enterprise 2.0 Suites – application suites that pull together different mini applications. Unless they are evolving to an ad supported model (which hasn’t succeeded in the enterprise as yet), it will always be difficult for them to support a sales force and seriously target the enterprise. At the most, they’ll be left to focus on the SMB market.

Partnerships is indeed one way out of this. The big players whether it be portal or otherwise are incorporating more and more Enterprise 2.0 functionality.

]]> By: Bill Ives http://www.theappgap.com/boardvantage-taking-enterprise-20-into-the-board-room.html/comment-page-1#comment-1620 Bill Ives Fri, 16 May 2008 21:01:14 +0000 http://www.theappgap.com/boardvantage-taking-enterprise-20-into-the-board-room.html#comment-1620 Jenny you raise two good points. First the label enterprise 2.0. I try to only apply when I feel it is warranted but then I also only tend to interview people and companies where the label applies since that is the focus of this blog. I get asked by many companies, usually through their PR or marketing arm, to be interviewed for the App Gap. I try to only accept those that have an enterprise 2.0 story to tell. If I have a doubt I tell them this criteria. I define enterprise 2.0 as the use of controlled transparency inside the firewall for business objectives. Although I will also cover people who try to set up communities outside the firewall for their clients or market. This controlled transparency often involves open APIs and the social side of software. In this case I used the term enterprise 2.0 in the title because it was the first firm I encountered that used controlled transparency for this niche audience. I do not always use the term in titles. I do try to show the variety of applications that are taking this enterprise 2.0 approach. I am not an advocate of the term but it seems to be the best alternative for now. I never liked knowledge management either but that term stuck also. The second question about the future of the smaller firms is an interesting one. I image it will go the way of many software markets. The also rans drop out. The good ones either find a niche and partnerships to stay independent or they sell to the big players. The large vendors are certainly adding some enterprise 2.0 features but these are usually bundled with their boarder offerings and are more expensive. I think there is definitely a role for smaller pure play vendors at this stage in the market. That is often where the real innovation goes. What happens when the market matures will be interesting. Jenny you raise two good points. First the label enterprise 2.0. I try to only apply when I feel it is warranted but then I also only tend to interview people and companies where the label applies since that is the focus of this blog. I get asked by many companies, usually through their PR or marketing arm, to be interviewed for the App Gap. I try to only accept those that have an enterprise 2.0 story to tell. If I have a doubt I tell them this criteria. I define enterprise 2.0 as the use of controlled transparency inside the firewall for business objectives. Although I will also cover people who try to set up communities outside the firewall for their clients or market. This controlled transparency often involves open APIs and the social side of software. In this case I used the term enterprise 2.0 in the title because it was the first firm I encountered that used controlled transparency for this niche audience. I do not always use the term in titles. I do try to show the variety of applications that are taking this enterprise 2.0 approach. I am not an advocate of the term but it seems to be the best alternative for now. I never liked knowledge management either but that term stuck also.

The second question about the future of the smaller firms is an interesting one. I image it will go the way of many software markets. The also rans drop out. The good ones either find a niche and partnerships to stay independent or they sell to the big players. The large vendors are certainly adding some enterprise 2.0 features but these are usually bundled with their boarder offerings and are more expensive. I think there is definitely a role for smaller pure play vendors at this stage in the market. That is often where the real innovation goes. What happens when the market matures will be interesting.

]]> By: Jenny Ambrozek http://www.theappgap.com/boardvantage-taking-enterprise-20-into-the-board-room.html/comment-page-1#comment-1617 Jenny Ambrozek Fri, 16 May 2008 16:23:20 +0000 http://www.theappgap.com/boardvantage-taking-enterprise-20-into-the-board-room.html#comment-1617 Bill, do appreciate your reviews to sift the continuous stream it appears of new tools. I couldn't help but wonder reading your post at what point "Enteprise 2.0" becomes redundant. On the one hand I look at new aspirants entering the market. On the other existing enterprise platform providers like IBM adding functionality to their platforms as they did with ATLAS. I remember attending an online learning industry conference in the early 21st century where an industry analyst observed in the past year the number of software providers he covered had about halved because of small players dropping off and larger gobbling up the cream of the crop. Should I expect a similar evolution of what we currently know as "Enterprise 2.0" tools? ~ Jenny Bill, do appreciate your reviews to sift the continuous stream it appears of new tools. I couldn’t help but wonder reading your post at what point “Enteprise 2.0″ becomes redundant. On the one hand I look at new aspirants entering the market. On the other existing enterprise platform providers like IBM adding functionality to their platforms as they did with ATLAS.

I remember attending an online learning industry conference in the early 21st century where an industry analyst observed in the past year the number of software providers he covered had about halved because of small players dropping off and larger gobbling up the cream of the crop.

Should I expect a similar evolution of what we currently know as “Enterprise 2.0″ tools?

~ Jenny

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